Friday, October 15, 2004

Moore the merrier!

Again, this is why I love my job so much. It's the coolest thing in the world for me, that I get to witness little parts of history.

I found myself at USC last night. Michael Moore was speaking at a political rally that was supposed to encourage college students to get out and vote on election day.


It really was more of an "anti-Bush bash". Most of what he said in the time that I was there, was just a very entertaining stream of anti-Bush statements. He spoke to a group of, oh. . .

. . .I don't know, you count them. Anyway, it was a lot of people. Especially to be in one place for so little music involved.

Now, what I need is a favor. I need people who have seen his movie to stop looking at me like I'm making a political statement for not having seen it. It's making me uncomfortable. Anytime it's brought up, the people who voting Democrat look at me (and hiss) like I'm one of "THOSE" people, the evil ones.

People voting Republican are quieter about it. When the Democrats stop hissing and turn away, the Republicans kind of wink and give a small nod. One guy even made a funny gesture with his thumb and eyebrow. Maybe he was just wiping his face (some of the Democrat hissing gets out of hand).

From what I understand of Michael Moore's position, I'd probably get something out of seeing his film. Maybe I'd be better informed and at the very least, I'd be entertained. It's just difficult for me to want to go out of my way to see a film that feels anything like propaganda. Even if I'm inclined to agree with it. Even if I suspect the content to be true (or mostly true).

I'm finding far too many reasonable people completely focused on supporting their candidate, while much of what I see as the reality of the situation is ignored. There are important issues that get little or no attention from either side. I know who I'm going to vote for and why. I'll see the movie at some point, maybe on DVD or maybe on TV. For now, I just want to cover the news and encourage people to be a part of the process.



You can't make a change without taking action, but if going to a movie is the course of action you decide to take, go see "Shaun of the Dead". It's a comedy about brain dead zombies.

(sigh) That wasn't a political statement, I really just liked the movie.

17 comments:

Michelle said...

Love him or hate him MM has always been up front about his dislike of Bush.At least the public know exactly what their getting, his completely transparent.

Jack's Shack said...

I have no problem telling people that I haven't see Moore's movie. I find him to be among the bigger hypocrites in the public eye.

He makes money off of other people's tragedies and sorrow.

And to me he just doesn't come off as someone who is doing this to be altruistic.

Michelle said...

on one level i do agree with you Jack,however if people are that naive and that thick, then you get what you deserve........you get back only what you put in. Then there is choice.....if you don't like it.....turn it off.

Grace said...

I think to bash something you havent seen is unfair.
I think it's important for people in the industry to see outfoxed, made from journalists who once produced, anchored etc. for fox about the level and type of propaganda that is being created and how.
I think reading Orwell is of utmost importance righht now and I'm glad my sons teachers agree.
I like that we have freedom of speech outside the confines of corporate owned media
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http://www.freewayblogger.com/index.htm

I think

i encourage others to
and investigate what is reported.
I hope we agree on some of that.
I disagree here:
"People voting Republican are quieter about it. When the Democrats stop hissing and turn away, the Republicans kind of wink and give a small nod. One guy even made a funny gesture with his thumb and eyebrow. Maybe he was just wiping his face (some of the Democrat hissing gets out of hand)."
perhaps, but, they tend to be more mean spirited.
I've met some mean ugly rascist Republicans while out working with the Democrats- slaveowners probably gave a wink too.

Jack's Shack said...

perhaps, but, they tend to be more mean spirited.
I've met some mean ugly rascist Republicans while out working with the Democrats- slaveowners probably gave a wink too.
That is unfair remark to make. People are people and both parties exhibit the best and the worst that people have to offer. Stereotypes don't help, they hurt.

Grace said...

"People voting Republican are quieter about it. When the Democrats stop hissing and turn away, the Republicans kind of wink and give a small nod.
that is a stereotype- and what I wrote was from my personal experience in the last month.

copy this onto web address line to read of my day in the very republican palisades
http://www.livejournal.com/users/metahara/19567.html#cutid1

beFrank said...
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beFrank said...

I like that people are passionate about politics. I don't like that people are polarized against each other over the leadership of this country. I've talked to a lot of nice, well educated people from both the Republican and Democratic parties. Both sides are strongly supportive of their candidate and both sides are willing to overlook any mistakes or shortcomings of their candidate.

I think Bush knowingly overstated his reasons for going to war. You know what? I don't think the ends justifies the means. I didn't vote for him, but I'm not ashamed to admit I supported his presidency. I don't hate him, but I've seen enough and I don't feel like he deserves a second term.

I'm not inclined to vote for him. I want my president to be honest and tell me the full truth, not just the parts that support the course of action that he wants to take. I'm a big boy. Tell me the truth and let me make my own decision.

Bashing? It wasn't my intent to bash his movie. I don't feel strongly enough one way or the other about Michael Moore and his movies. I just don't feel like I have anything to prove and I'm starting to become offended by people judging me negatively because I won't go see a movie. There are too many people who make compelling arguments in support of Bush for me to dismiss him as completely as many of my Democratic friends have done.

Come to your own decisions. If you disagree with mine, that's okay. Half the people I know don't agree with me.

beFrank said...

The post I made that generated these comments was intended to be patially tongue-in-cheek. The point I was trying to make was that people I know from both parties are making assumptions about me based on my not seeing Farenhiet 911. I thought I was representing both sides equally, but I'm sorry if it didn't read that way.

scarlett said...

i hope bush doesnt win , i hate him

beFrank said...

scarlett- See, that's what I'm getting from both sides. I don't feel like I have to hate one side to support the other. Just saying that, I get hated by both sides because I won't take an extreme stand against or in support of either candidate. In the meantime, I feel like we're given the choice between two less than ideal candidates.

magz said...

beFrank... For President! It can't be too late for a write in campaign on the beCool, beParty Ticket, right? (It would NOT be a fun job in my humble opinion, but the campaign manager one might) "beAll that we can be..beCool, beFrank, bePresidential!"

beFrank said...

magz, as always, you've made my day. Thank you for your support. If AW votes for me, that'll be two votes. One more than I got in the last election. It's only two votes, because I know better than to vote for me. Thanks though.

magz said...

as a registered non-voter, I'd actually go to the polls for you. If scooter and danno voted too... why, it's a grassroots movement! just one political favor i'd request: please repeal the 'no-beer-till-after-10:00-am-on-Sunday-in-Arizona law, I got caught out yet again yesterday morning, lurking around the Circle K parking lot, forced to read the Tucson Sunday paper for a half hour yesterday! Euwwww, a buck an a half's worth of mostly ads and political commentary (which could be another campaign issue, more funnies please! more Dave Berry for all) "beGreat, beFrank in 2008!"

dellislove said...

magz - 10:00am! What kind of society do we live in? Gosh, when you put it that way, I can see it's my duty to seek political office. Vote beFrank for the beER party!

You know what would happen though? We'd all party the night before and sleep through election day.

Phin Samuels said...

You do have a sweet job!

I just saw Moore's movie this weekend and it didn't do much for me. I am not a big fan of Bush and the movie only confirmed why I don't like him. The only thing it made me do was worry about all the other politicians who have stood by and let a lot of crap happen. It might be a persuasive movie for some fence sitters, but it could work the opposite way also.

Thomas said...

I know what you mean about avoiding propaganda and Farenheight 9/11 was quite biased, but that was no surprise to me.

What I found surprising about the film was how facinated I was to see some unscripted moments from our soldiers in fighting this war.

After spending a fortune in time, money and effort on embedding reporters in with our soldiers, they reorted little back but PR and attack counts.

Plus, it was fascinating looking at the before and after footage from the streets of Iraq.

However, I disagreed with Michael Moore's assessment that the movie should NOT have been given a R rating.

The public execution footage from Saudi Arabia alone made it 'adult-only' in my book.